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Post by Murfios on Dec 6, 2007 2:07:47 GMT
Lol, Vista does suck. I loaded Xp and now everything works again. Now I don't see crashed every 4hours.
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Post by meliritiatl on Dec 24, 2007 9:04:00 GMT
There is this link here which gives info about the aztec calendar www.azteccalendar.com/azteccalendar.htmlmaybe we could use the info from that page. For example our scripters (hmm do we have some?) could script a calendar running randomly and when you have to decide on a battle or on truce or whatever you can ask the omens if the day is good for battle or not. For example one day the omen ould say sth like this Atl is a day for purification by subjecting oneself to the ordeal of conflict. It is a good day for battle, a bad day for rest. Water brings out the scorpion, who must sting its enemies or else sting itself. Atl is the day of the holy war, which is always a battle with one's own enemies within. And of course we should be running the game in Aztec counted time, or mayan but at least mesoamerican and not Roman right? But who am i kidding? We lack the scripters right? And for example someone could say "hey i can do that" but noone would really sit down and write the script for that right? So consider this remark as not made fellows This is below for information reasons only
The Calendar and the Sun Stone
Mistakenly, one often refers to the Sun Stone, or the Stone of Axayacatl, as the Aztec Calendar. This sculpure does depict the 20 daysigns, and even the four era's of Suns that preceeded the current Fifth Sun but is was not used as a calendar. Instead it was used as a sacrifical altar. So, what actually is the Aztec calendar?
Not just one calendar There is not just one Aztec calendar, there are two more or less independent systems. One calendar, called the xiuhpohualli, has 365 days. It describes the days and rituals related to the seasons, and therefor might be called the agricultural year or the solar year. The other calendar has 260 days. In Nahuatl, the language of the Aztecs, it is called the tonalpohualli or, the day-count. Most information on this Internet-site refers to the tonalpohualli, which is the sacred calendar.
The tonalpohualli and Aztec cosmology The tonalpohualli, or day-count, has been called a sacred calendar because its main purpose is that of a divinatory tool. It divides the days and rituals between the gods. For the Aztec mind this is extremely important. Without it the world would soon come to an end. According to Aztec cosmology, the universe is in a very delicate equilibrium. Opposing divine forces are competing for power. This equilibrium is in constant danger of being disrupted by shifting powers of the gods, of the elemental forces that influence our lifes. This struggle cannot be won by any god. The notion that everything ultimately consists of two opposing forces is essential to the Aztec worldview. The world is always on the brink of going under in a spiritual war, a war of gods competing for supreme power. To prevent this from happening, the gods have been given their own space, their own time, their own social groups, etcetera, to rule over. The tonalpohualli tells us how time is divided among the gods.
The system of the tonalpohualli The system of the tonalpohualli can be best understood by imagining two wheels that are connected to each other. One wheel has the numbers "one" to "thirteen" written on it. The second wheel has twenty symbols on it. In the initial situation, number "one" combines with the first symbol. This is the first day of the tonalpohualli. Now the wheels start moving and number "two" combines with the second glyph. This is the second day. After fourteen days, an Aztec week (trecena in Spanish) of thirteen days has passed. The wheel with the numbers shows number "one" again. The other wheel now shows the fourteenth symbol. After 260 days, the two wheels have returned to their initial position. The tonalpohualli starts all over again.
Dividing time among gods A day (tonalli) in the tonalpohualli consists of a number and a symbol or daysign. Each daysign is dedicated to a god. The twenty dayssigns and their gods are successively:
Nr. Daysign God Nr. Daysign God 1 Cipactli Tonacatecuhtli 11 Ozomahtli Xochipili 2 Ehecatl Quetzalcoatl 12 Malinalli Patecatl 3 Calli Tepeyollotl 13 Acatl Tezcatlipoca 4 Cuetzpalin Huehuecoyotl 14 Ocelotl Tlazolteotl 5 Coatl Chalchihuitlicue 15 Cuauhtli Xipe Totec 6 Miquiztli Tecciztecatl 16 Cozcacuauhtli Itzpapalotl 7 Mazatl Tlaloc 17 Ollin Xolotl 8 Tochtli Mayahuel 18 Tecpatl Chalchihuihtotolin 9 Atl Xiuhtecuhtli 19 Quiahuitl Tonatiuh 10 Itzcuintli Mictlantecuhtli 20 Xochitl Xochiquetzal
Each daysign is ruled by a god. The nature of a day is also influenced by its number.
Nr. (Nahuatl) God 1 Ce Xiuhtecuhtli 2 Ome Tlaltecuhtli 3 Yei Chalchihuitlicue 4 Nahui Tonatiuh 5 Mahcuilli Tlazolteotl 6 Chicuacen Mictlantecuhtli 7 Chicome Centeotl 8 Chicuei Tlaloc 9 Chicunahui Quetzalcoatl 10 Mahtlactli Tezcatlipoca 11 Mahtlactli-once Chalmecatecuhtli 12 Mahtlactli-omome Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli 13 Mahtlactli-omei Citlalicue
More important, each trecenas has a god that rules over that very 13-day period. The twenty trecenas and their associated gods or elemental forces are successively:
Nr. Trecenas God Nr. Trecenas God 1 Cipactli Ometeotl 11 Ozomahtli Patecatl 2 Ocelotl Quetzalcoatl 12 Cuetzpalin Itzlacoliuhqui 3 Mazatl Tepeyollotl 13 Ollin Tlazolteotl 4 Xochitl Huehuecoyotl 14 Itzcuintli Xipe Totec 5 Acatl Chalchihuitlicue 15 Calli Itzpapalotl 6 Miquiztli Tonatiuh 16 Cozcacuauhtli Xolotl 7 Quiahuitl Tlaloc 17 Atl Chalchihuihtotolin 8 Malinalli Mayahuel 18 Ehecatl Chantico 9 Coatl Xiuhtecuhtli 19 Cuauhtli Xochiquetzal 10 Tecpatl Mictlantecuhtli 20 Tochtli Xiuhtecuhtli
The xiuhpohualli The 365-day year or xihuitl consists of 18 months (meztli) of 20 days plus five extra (unlucky) days. The last day of the last month of the year gives its (tonalpohualli-) name to the xihuitl. This name is the "Xihuitl" information that is displayed by the calendar. A simple calculation learns that only four daysigns can "bear" (i.e. give their name to) the year. These are Calli, Tochtli, Acatl and Tecpatl for the Aztec calendar. A similar calculation tells us that the number of the xihuitl is raised every year. So year 1-Calli is followed by 2-Tochtli, etcetera. This means that every 52 years (4 times 13) the name of the year will be the same. A combination of 52 years is called a calendar round or xiuhmolpilli (bundle).
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Post by Rah'Majashan on Dec 24, 2007 23:07:16 GMT
Great resource Mel. Sorry I haven't been around much guys but my holiday play time was robbed from me with this freelance job I stupidly agreed to which is now making me work my entire holiday. So, when i have free time the last thing I want to do is get back on a computer to edit graphic files and such. I'm not a happy jolly holiday camper at the moment.
I'm glad to see the work is still progressing though and I look forward to once again contributing. Hopefully by mid week I'll be back in the game.
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Post by meliritiatl on Dec 27, 2007 5:35:50 GMT
yes Rah you are the bacbone to this mod. I thing i have finished the Aztecs by the way
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Post by Rah'Majashan on Dec 27, 2007 17:47:24 GMT
Great job Mel! I may have some free time today at work to do some of the alphas and skin textures then I'll test them when I get home.
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Post by meliritiatl on Dec 28, 2007 6:29:38 GMT
no i havent send the files yet, still waiting for the green light from you saying "everything is ok now, i can get back to modding", and then i can send you the files. If we can have a preview by mid Janueary i will be more than happy.
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Post by meliritiatl on Dec 28, 2007 6:39:29 GMT
There is this link here which gives info about the aztec calendar www.azteccalendar.com/azteccalendar.htmlmaybe we could use the info from that page. For example our scripters (hmm do we have some?) could script a calendar running randomly and when you have to decide on a battle or on truce or whatever you can ask the omens if the day is good for battle or not. For example one day the omen ould say sth like this Atl is a day for purification by subjecting oneself to the ordeal of conflict. It is a good day for battle, a bad day for rest. Water brings out the scorpion, who must sting its enemies or else sting itself. Atl is the day of the holy war, which is always a battle with one's own enemies within. [/i][/quote] i wonder if learn leadership skills could script sth like this or it would be tooooo hard for him....
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Post by Roman_Man#3 on Dec 29, 2007 2:02:35 GMT
It ain't even possible, but then again, what do I know.
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Post by meliritiatl on Dec 29, 2007 10:22:16 GMT
ah too bad, i think it would be a nice idea.Hey maybe we could ask Makayane or somebody else from the big heads if this kind of thinkg is possible or not...
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Post by Roman_Man#3 on Dec 29, 2007 18:02:55 GMT
Right, because it seems I do not know the limitations of the RTW engine.
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