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Post by Rah'Majashan on Sept 3, 2007 3:06:04 GMT
I decided not to use the San Agustin stuff after researching the regions. Perhaps we can add that as a wonder.
Its dificult to find both province names and city names while doing my research, so I got the idea of using the quecha word of 'region' which is 'kiti' to add to the end of the names of the dominant culture group of an area. For example, there is the town of Pasto built by the Pasto people. So, I named the town, Pasto and the region Pastokiti.
Does anyone have any issues with this?
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Post by Rah'Majashan on Sept 3, 2007 8:42:18 GMT
Right then, I said I would give an update on my progression and here it is. I spent much of the evening researching. It seems the more research I do, the more work I create for myself. I believe I found all the Chimu cities and right at the end of my research I found a map that validated all the earlier research I did.
Anyway, I added in about 10 new provinces today covering much of the northern Inca lands (when the spanish arrived that is) this includes the Chimu and Moche cultures as well. Some of the cities I discovered today are: Guapondeleg, ingapirca, Guayaquil in southern Equador and Tumbes, Puira, Tecume, Apurlec, Chan Chan, Cajamarca, Tomeque (most of which are Chimu) tomorrow I will delve into the heart of the Incan lands. I'll let you know what I find.
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Post by meliritiatl on Sept 3, 2007 10:00:44 GMT
one way to do less work. Stop the research, he he. Just kidding, get down there, work (whiplashhhh), work you!!!
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Post by Rah'Majashan on Sept 3, 2007 16:31:33 GMT
Funny you say whiplash, I actually got whip lash working yesterday so, my whole evening was spent staring at the computer with a stiff neck.
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Post by perszeusz on Sept 3, 2007 20:21:24 GMT
The "kiti" idea is excellent, I see no problem with it. It's the best option since no town dominated areas like San Agustin, and little is known about cultures (if any) that populated the areas of older populations.
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Post by Rah'Majashan on Sept 3, 2007 20:50:40 GMT
Great! I was actually waiting to see what your thoughts were on the use of kiti perszeusz.
Ok, today my research led me to the Chachapoya and Aguaruna provinces. They are as follows
Chachapoya = Kuelep & Pajaten Aguaruna = Yutupiza & Japaime (for these provinces I'm going to call them Yutupiza Awajun & Japaime Awajun since 'Awajun' is what the Aguaruna call themselves.)
I will also add Shubet Mt. to the west of Kuelep.
As for some 'rebel' villages, I found quite a few from the Jabaro and Huaorani peoples, they are:
Tagaeri, Huinatare, Onamenane, and Tarmenene
I probably wont get to the actual Inca cities as I had hoped, took me all day just to find a map with Pajaten on it.
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Post by Rah'Majashan on Sept 6, 2007 0:44:38 GMT
I may add Cajamarquilla if I can find out where it is. Its basically the city in which the Inca secured the Chachapoya peoples within their Empire about 50 years before the Spanish arrived. Isn't it ironic that the names of the city where the Chachapoya met their end and the Inca met their end, Cajamarca, have similar names?
For further irony, the quecha word for toilet is hespana, not much different then hispania eh?
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Post by Rah'Majashan on Sept 6, 2007 5:39:53 GMT
OK, I added eight more regions this evening. Kuelap and Pajaten of the Chachapoyas, I am still looking for one more for this faction.
I also found quite a few interesting people for the Amazon regions. Those of the Shuar people, better known as Jabiro or Headshrinkers. I made three provinces of these people, Muraiya Shuar (People of the Hills) and Achuar (People of the Swamp) and the Yayuro, a branch of the Shuar who live up in Venezuala. I also added a procince with the town of Belen in the Iquito region of Peru.
The warriors or mercenaries of these people would be called Kakaram. These are warriors who have killed many people to recieve this title.
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Post by meliritiatl on Sept 6, 2007 9:43:11 GMT
do i actually have to model all of them? It would be nice if our recearchers had done this terrific reference research you are doing now Rah and had told me earlier, when i was modeling the mercs. Anyway, nice job Rah
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Post by Rah'Majashan on Sept 6, 2007 15:08:04 GMT
No, you don't have to model them, we just use which ever model looks the most like what we want and change its name and skin. my thoughts on this are, and I knew you were going to ask this question and I should have said it earlier, I believe we have all the models we're going to need. You already modeled mercenaries. I am just adding mercenery groups that we'll find in these various regions.
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Post by Rah'Majashan on Sept 7, 2007 18:48:56 GMT
OK, I am researvhing for the Incan cities and provinces which I will add to finally finish the map and I am coming across some interesting information. There is the city of Moray, which is a highly terraced agricultural town where the climate changes depending on the terrace your on and some believe the Inca used this site to test crops to see in what environments they would grow best. Could this not be a wonder? Also, there is Tambomachay a sacred temple of water outside Cusco where the Emperor supposedly rested on hunts but was also a temple. Perhaps we can add the design as a temple in the city. The photos on this site cover it quite well. I was thinking of adding the hillside into the model. I also discovered Tipon, or Timpuj in quecha, which was a huge water garden rivalling anything built in the old world. It was a walled water distriibution center and noble compound covering 500 square acres. This has to be coded into the game some how as a benefit to any faction that controls it. I would think it would allow better irrigation for farming since the engineering here was the height of Inca irrigation technology. So far, the Inca cities that will be on the map are; Machu Picchu, Winay Wayna, Phutupatamarca, Corihuayrachina, Ollantaytambo, Moray, Sacsatyhuaman, Cusco, Pisac and Tipon. These will all be in the sacred valley of the Inca. I believe the last 6 will be the Incas starting cities since they are all close Cusco. This area is going to be similar to Macedonia in the Vanilla game in that there will be many small provinces within a small area of the map. For game play, you will probably want to consolodate your control of this valley before venturing off to build your empire. More to come. Let me know what you think.
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Post by SSJVegetaTrunks on Sept 7, 2007 23:21:55 GMT
To tell the truth I just skimmed through your message, but I think wonders would be a great idea. It will also affect traits: Some generals will have aspirations to become famous and conquer wonders.
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Post by Rah'Majashan on Sept 7, 2007 23:53:22 GMT
I have a few wonder ideas. I'll post them once I get back to my notes
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Post by Balom Warrior on Sept 8, 2007 5:03:49 GMT
I have Several Central American names: Ulua Chamelecon Siwatepeque Ocotepeque Siwanteque Cholotega Iwancon Maybe those could help? I have more but those are the ones untop of my head.
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Post by rexdacorum on Sept 8, 2007 11:11:33 GMT
Wow ! Is great, Rah'Majashan... anyway, in the begining Inca will start only with 3 cityes, rest will be rebels or so... they will have to fight against rebels and Chanca wich will also attempt to control the area.
I`m thinking about adding these wonders as unique buildings, like in EB. It would be more easy.
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