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Post by meliritiatl on Apr 7, 2008 2:26:56 GMT
With you out of the picture i dont know how much I can endure. Anyway, we will see, but i really fear this mod is going to hybernation mod until you get back. Listen, before you go to your cave and have a nice winter sleep, can you just tell me which vanilla faction each meso civ replaces? I want to be sure I am replacing the right buildings you know. Oh and its the buildings from 1.5 i will be replacing right, our mod was 1.5 as far as i remember, right?
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Post by Rah'Majashan on Apr 7, 2008 3:36:41 GMT
I assure you its most definitely not sleeping that I am doing, it is quite the opposite. But I guess from the point of view of you guys it seems that I have crawled off to a dark cave and died. Here's a link to the what factions we are replacing.
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Post by meliritiatl on Apr 7, 2008 10:08:35 GMT
Rah man dont worry, im not complaining or anything, believe me i know what real life engagements are like. Its just that without you...i really dont have the mood to work on the mod, thats all. Anyway, you havent added the link.
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Post by jacobdebroedere on Apr 7, 2008 16:24:47 GMT
Keep up the good work guys. This mod is nearing completion, and it would be a pity to give up now.
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Post by Rah'Majashan on Apr 7, 2008 17:19:35 GMT
The link is there, click on the word 'link'.
Also, I am still working on getting the buildings coded into the EDB, I hit a snag that I am working on and since I have little time it is slow going. But once that compelete much of the hard work will be done (hopefully)
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Post by meliritiatl on Apr 8, 2008 2:02:58 GMT
what i will do while you are away is model and skin all the remaining buildings for the Aztec and the Tlaxcalans and skin the Maya and MIxtec ones. But first i have to know whether you have found a way to insert them ingame. Second, we need to test the fort model in the strat map, after that you can rest till end May as you said. From you i need only to confirm that we can include buildings in the battlemap and to insert the fort succesfully in the strat map. Leave the rest to me.
Since you visit this site and not msn anymore, with Aradan we have changed some things about the skeletons, during the balancing process. Here are the correct skeletons, be sure to correct them in your entries
maya_nobles fs_spearman
maya_atl_atl fs_semi_fast_javelinman, fs_semi_fast_dagger
champion ; used for maya officer as well fs_semi_fast_spearman
lancer fs_semi_fast_spearman
heavy_lancer fs_semi_fast_spearman
jaguar warrior fs_semi_fast_spearman
heavy_infantry fs_spearman
light_infantry fs_semi_fast_swordsman
maya general fs_semi_fast_spearman
plumed_infantry fs_swordsman
shock_troops fs_fast_spearman
maya_warrior fs_fast_spearman
yununob ;slinger fs_slinger_new
elite_slinger fs_slinger_new
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ; ; **AZTEC UNITS** ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
type 2captives ; cuextecatl skeleton fs_spearman
type 3captive_priest skeleton fs_spearman
type atl_atl skeleton fs_semi_fast_javelinman, fs_semi_fast_dagger
type bowman skeleton fs_archer, fs_dagger
type cicitlallo_cuextecatl ; 4 capt priest skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type coyote_warrior ; 6,7 capt priest skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type cuachiqueh ; 6,7 capt warrior skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type knight_of_the_eagle skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type knight_of_the_jaguar skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type meztli ; 2 cap priest skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type momoyactli ; 5 capt priest skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type novice_warrior skeleton fs_swordsman
type ocelotl ; 4 capt warrior skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type aztec_officer skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type one_captive skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type otomi ; 5 captive warrior skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type papalotl ; 3 cap warrior skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type slinger skeleton fs_slinger_new
type tlacatecatl skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type tlacochcalcatl skeleton fs_spearman
type elite_standard_bearer skeleton fs_standard_bearer
type infantry_standard_bearer skeleton fs_standard_bearer
type missile_standard_bearer skeleton fs_standard_bearer
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ; ; **MIXTEC-ZAPOTEC UNITS** ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
type mixtec_bowman skeleton fs_archer, fs_dagger
type mixtec_nobles skeleton fs_semi_fast_javelinman, fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type mixtec_jaguar_warrior skeleton fs_semi_fast_javelinman, fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type mixtec_lord skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type mixtec_priest skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type mixtec_slinger skeleton fs_slinger_new
type mixtec_spearman skeleton fs_spearman
type mixtec_warrior skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type mixtec_officer skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type zapotec_novice_warrior skeleton fs_swordsman
type zapotec_priest skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type zapotec_nobles skeleton semi_fast_javelinman, semi_fast_swordsman
type zapotec_warrior skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
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type cuauhololli_warrior skeleton fs_2handed
type elite_warrior_of_tlaxcalla skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type huexotzingan_warrior skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type priest_of_cholula skeleton fs_semi_fast_javelinman, fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type tizatlan_warrior skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type tlaxcala_bowman skeleton fs_archer, fs_swordsman
type tlaxcala_slinger skeleton fs_slinger_new, fs_slinger_new
type tlaxcala_elite_bowman skeleton fs_archer, fs_swordsman
type tlaxcala_general skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type tlaxcala_nobles skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type tlaxcala_spearman skeleton fs_spearman
type tlaxcala_officer skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type warrior_of_tlaxcalla skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
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type almehen ; merc maya noble skeleton fs_semi_fast_spearman
type huaxtec_elite_warrior skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type huaxtec_warrior skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type merc_jaguar_warrior skeleton fs_semi_fast_javelinman, fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type otomi_warrior skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type tarascan_bowman skeleton fs_archer, fs_dagger
type tarascan_elite_bowman skeleton fs_archer, fs_dagger
type tarascan_slinger skeleton fs_slinger_new, fs_slinger_new
type texcocoan_elite skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type toltec_boar_warrior skeleton fs_spearman
type toltec_crocodile_warrior skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type toltec_deer_warrior skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type eagle_knight skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
type jaguar_knight skeleton fs_semi_fast_swordsman
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all bowmen sec weapons changed to normal speed almehen = merc maya noble chnaged to fs_semi_fast_spearman maya officer units using maya champion model zapotec_nobles = semi_fast_javelinman + semi_fast_swordsman mezo_jaguar_warrior renamed to merc_jaguar_warrior, using fs_semi_fast_javelinman, fs_semi_fast_swordsman zapotec_officer renamed to mixtec_officer maya officer changed to fs_semi_fast_spearman and toltec_boar_warrior changed to fs_spearman
One more thing. The description for El Mirador should change, for i once thought El Mirador was the temple but in fact it was the city. So change the name to TRIADIC PYRAMID
and the description to this one:
Triadic Pyramid
The Triadic Pyramid was the most distinctive complex of buildings at the Maya city El Mirador. El Mirador is located in a remote region of Guatemala’s Petén jungle and dominated much of the Maya lowlands during the Late Preclassic from 150 B.C. to A.D. 150. The Triadic Pyramid was one of the largest man-made structures in the world. The largest pyramid at El Mirador, El Tigre, is a 57,000 square foot pyramid complex, roughly equivalent to three football fields.
Another thing we have is the proverbs, which although not meso they are military proverbs and quotes which can be used in the game i think. If some evening you dont have what to do and you feel bored with watching Prison Break here are the proverbs
Military Proverbs and Quotes
"It is better to live one day as a lion than a hundred years as a sheep." - Italian proverb
"Under a good general there are no bad soldiers." -Chinese proverb
"Though all under heaven be at peace, if the art of war be forgotten there is peril." - Chinese proverb
"A good run is better than a bad stand" Irish saying/proverb
"Shrimp may attack dragons in shallow water." -Traditional Chinese proverb
"Heroes are made by the times." -Traditional Chinese proverb
"True gold does not fear the test of fire." -Traditional Chinese proverb
"When you are the anvil, be patient. When you are the hammer, strike." -Arabian Proverb
"Fall seven times, stand up eight." - Japanese Proverb
"The enemy is but weeds to be moved" - Aztec Proverb
"The hammer shatters glass but forges steel." - Russian proverb
"Tomorrow's battle is won during today's practice." - Samurai maxim
"Will yourself to stand ready and courageous on the battlefield. In this way, all that is difficult or dangerous will be yours." - The Way of the Samurai
"Battles are sometimes won by generals; wars are nearly always won by sergeants and privates." -F.E. Adcock, British classical scholar
The purpose of all war is peace. - Saint Augustine, 354-430
"To have good soldiers, a nation must always be at war." - Napoleon Bonaparte
"Laws are inoperative in war" - Marcus Tullius Cicero (106-43 B.C.): Pro Milone.
"War is the continuation of policy(politics) by other means." - Karl von Clausewitz Or "It is clear that war is not a mere act of policy but a true political instrument, a continuation of political activity by other means" This is from a translated version of "On War" from 1976
"War is much too serious a matter to be entrusted to the military." - Georges Clemenceau
"I don't know whether war is an interlude during peace, or peace is an interlude during war." - Georges Clemenceau
"I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity." -General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"War is delightful to those who have had no experience of it. " - Desiderius Erasmus, Dutch humanist, ca. 1466–1536
"The most disadvantageous peace is better than the most just war" - Desiderius Erasmus
"The God of War hates those who hesitate." - Euripides, 480-406 b.c. Greek tragic dramatist
"The essence of war is violence. Moderation in war is imbecility" -British Sea Lord John Fisher
"It is war that shapes peace, and armament that shapes war." - Thomas Fuller
"He who stays on the defensive does not make war, he endures it" - Field Marshal Colmar Baron von der Goltz, 1883
"If men make war in slavish obedience to rules, they will fail." - Ulysses S. Grant
"War is the mother of everything." -Heraclitus, Greek philosopher (535-475BC)
"In peace sons bury fathers, but war violates the order of nature, and fathers bury sons." -Heroditus, greek historian c. 484-425 B.C.
"In war, only the simple succeeds." -Field Marshal Paul Von Hindenburg
"It is well that war is so terrible, else we should grow too fond of it." - General Robert E. Lee
"War is an art and as such is not susceptible of explanation by fixed formula" - General George Patton Jr
Wars may be fought with weapons, but they are won by men. - General George Patton Jr
"Si vis pacem, para bellum" ("If you want peace, prepare for war!") - Flavius Vegetius Renatus (ca 390 AD), Roman military strategist From "Epitoma rei militaris" (a summary of military matters)
War is cruelty. There's no use trying to reform it, the crueler it is the sooner it will be over. -William Tecumseh Sherman
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak. -Sun Tzu, "The Art of War"
"The art of war is, in the last result, the art of keeping one’s freedom of action" - Xenophon, Greek historian (c. 430-355 BC)
"A leader is a man who can adapt principles to circumstances." - General George S. Patton
"Lead me, follow me, or get out of my way." - General George Patton
"Leadership is the art of getting someone else to do something you want done because he wants to do it." -General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"You don't lead by hitting people over the head-that's assault, not leadership." -General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"There is no type of human endeavor where it is so important that the leader understands all phases of his job as that of the profession of arms." - Major General James Fry
I must follow them. I am their leader. - Andrew Bonar Law, 1858-1923
"I have to follow them. I am their leader." -Alexandre-Auguste Ledru-Rollin, Leader of the French Revolution of 1848
"The final test of a leader is that he leaves behind him in other men the conviction and the will to carry on." - Walter Lippmann, 1889-1974
"Reason and calm judgment, the qualities specially belonging to a leader." - Tacitus, 55-177
"A leader is a man who had the ability to get other people to do what they don't want to do, and like it." - Harry Truman
"You must love soldiers in order to understand them, and understand them in order to lead them." -Henri Turenne
"Munit haec et altera vincit." One defends and the other conquers. Motto of Nova Scotia.
"The weakness of the enemy makes our strength." Cherokee proverb.
"It is easy to be brave from a distance." Omaha proverb.
"Sing your death song and die like a hero going home." Chief Tecumseh - Shawnee.
If you like some of them, add them in and instead of attributing the quote to some guy (like Herodotus for example which would be awkward) just note down «military quote» or «military proverb»
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Post by Roman_Man#3 on Apr 9, 2008 2:00:30 GMT
Why don't we follow on what Vuk did for the preview, like put tips and strategy type things in place instead of quotes.
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Post by meliritiatl on Apr 9, 2008 3:26:28 GMT
He did that? i dont remember that. If you want this, this way its ok. Write down the tips and the strategy type things then for Rah to insert them ingame. If in two weeks time we only got these quotes, then i am afraid these are the final ones
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Post by iqusizupigam on Jun 7, 2019 0:50:15 GMT
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Post by ahumebayaxo on Jun 7, 2019 2:51:11 GMT
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